Photography from the Classics -
Posted by
A.Miguel Oliveira on February 1st, 2009 | 52 comments | 986 views
#1 - 01.02.09
Try to guess the
author's name till next Thursday (maybe also the decade it was taken), when I'll reveal his/her name .
You may post your guess since now!
I decided to post 3 pics from each photographer to show different views from himself, and to make it easier to guess.
You may choose, also, to
make some comments on the pic itself, both in a "woophyan" way as you do in your comments [don't hesitate to criticize a Master, for bad or good;)], or in a more general point of view, if you like. Thanks and enjoy!
Time for revelation:
All the photographs come from the Mexican Master,
Manuel Alvarez Bravo!
1.
Obrero en huelga asesinado (
Striking Worker Murdered), 1934
2.
Morning Notebook, 1939
3.
Invented Landscape, 1972
Now, a small
biography I organized from M.A.Bravo:
Manuel Alvarez Bravo
(1902-2002)
The word 'art' is very slippery. It really has no importance in relation to one's work. I work for the pleasure, for the pleasure of the work, and everything else is a matter for the critics. – M. Alvarez Bravo
One could think of a person who seems to have two opposing and contradictory sides to his personality; but it turns out that in the end the two sides are complementary. The same happens with an artist's work: deep down, what appear as contradictory sides are merely different registers, different aspects of the reality that the artist inhabits. – M. Alvarez Bravo
A photographer's main instrument is his eyes. Strange as it may seem, many photographers choose to use the eyes of another photographer, past or present, instead of their own. Those photographers are blind. – M. Alvarez Bravo
Manuel Alvarez Bravo, born in 1902, was an adolescent living on the outskirts of Mexico City when the Mexican revolution (1910–1920) reached its zenith. Running over the hills during intervals of peace, he would sometimes find a body lying dead and abandoned, the victim of brutal and often random violence. By the time Alvarez Bravo reached adulthood, nearly one million Mexicans had died due to starvation and fighting between rebel factions struggling for power. But his childhood was not lost to these disturbing realities. The experience of watching a local amateur working beneath the red light of a darkroom lamp remains a powerful memory for Alvarez Bravo from those formative years. It was his introduction to what became his livelihood and passion, the creative art of photography. His images are poetic and transgressive, tranquil and unsettling. Bravo shares a
formalism with his fellow modernists (Edward Weston, Alfred Stieglitz),
social concerns with revolutionary peers (Tina Modotti), and a penchant for
Surrealist fragmentation and disorientation (André Breton, Luis Buñuel).
The career of Alvarez Bravo, spanning nearly eighty years, has passed through many shifts and evolutions. However, the combination of two primary factors characterizes his work: an
early openness to artistic influence from outside Mexico, and a thoroughly Mexican subject matter. In the initial phases of his development, through the 1930s, European and American trends entered Mexico through magazines and the visits of
avant-garde photographers like Edward Weston, Tina Modotti, and Henri Cartier-Bresson. In the years following the revolution, foreigners came to Mexico in pursuit of political and creative freedom. Artistic life was thriving. The determined effort to establish a unified Mexican cultural identity in conjunction with the emergence of Mexico City as an international center for artistic and intellectual exchange provided the backdrop against which Alvarez Bravo pursued his lifelong vocation. The period following the Mexican Revolution—often called the Mexican Renaissance It was a time of a creative fertility, owing to the happy—though not always tranquil—marriage between a
desire for modernization and the search for an identity with Mexican roots, in which archaeology, history and ethnology played an important role, parallel to the arts. Álvarez Bravo embodied both tendencies in the field of visual arts.
A
self-taught photographer, his primary subject interests have ranged from the nude form to folk art, particularly burial rituals and decorations. Pioneer of artistic photography in Mexico, he is considered the main representative of Latin American photography in the 20th century. His work extends from the late 1920s to the 1990s. Both his grandfather (a painter) and his father were amateur photographers. Influenced by his study of painting at the Academy of San Carlos, he embraced
pictorialism at first. Then, with the discovery of cubism and all the possibilities offered by
abstraction, he began to explore modern aesthetics. He had his initiation into documentary photography in 1930: when she was deported from Mexico, Tina Modotti left him her job at the magazine Mexican Folkways. He also worked for the muralists Diego Rivera, José Clemente Orozco and David Alfaro Siqueiros.
Some of Manuel Alvarez Bravo's most famous photographs are of nudes, but the Mexican master is known more generally for
Surrealist-tinged images of a wide variety of subjects (themes of sleep, dreams, death, and the erotic).
Although he never considered himself a surrealist, these qualities are demonstrated in the Getty exhibition's 1938 photograph of a woman wrapped in strips of gauze bandages, La buena fama durmiendo (The Good Reputation Sleeping), that Breton commissioned for the cover of a surrealist exhibition catalogue.
In the 1930s and '40s, Alvarez Bravo's work evolved as he experimented with different forms. Like Paris photographer Eugène Atget (1856-1927), Alvarez Bravo became fascinated by
city street scenes, signs, vendors, and storefronts. Against the backdrop of Mexico City and the contrasts between the visible reminders of indigenous civilizations and the rapidly changing modern landscape, Alvarez Bravo refined his unique photographic style. Many of his works capture the contradictions between urban life and personal solitude.
His photograph Obrero en huelga asesinado (Striking Worker Murdered) especially blurs the line between high art and documentation. A few pictures reveal a love of
form for its own sake, as in a 1988 image of a twisting woman seen from behind. But far more often, Mr. Alvarez Bravo draws his uncanny images from the fertile territory shared by sexual desire and religious obsession.
While he was alive, he held over 150 individual exhibitions and participated in over 200 collective exhibitions. According to several critics, the work of this "poet of the lens" expresses the essence of Mexico. However, the
humanist regard reflected in his work, the aesthetic, literary and musical references it contains, likewise endow with a truly universal dimension. Bravo’s images communicate with immediacy across the decades.
He died on October 19, 2002, at the age of one hundred.
Text organized by me, A.Miguel Oliveira, with extracts from
Darsie Alexander, Charles Hagen, Micol Hebron, Asociación Manuel Alvarez Bravo and Getty Press Releases
SOME EXTRA Pics from M.Alvarez Bravo:
#4. 
La buena fama durmiendo (The Good Reputation Sleeping)_1938
#5. 
Señor de Papantla (Man from Papantia)_1934
#6. 
Parábola óptica (Optical Parable)_1931
#7. 
Peluquero (Barber)_1924
Now,
next "post", please have a look ;)
Comments
# posted by
A.Miguel Oliveira on February 7th, 2009 11:09 am
Thank you, Virgínia!;)). And I hope I'll have time enough to carry on;)
# posted by
VirgíniaB on February 7th, 2009 2:38 am
Bravo, Miguel, acertaste em cheio numa actividade que é criativa e pedagógica. Vou imprimir as bios que aqui pôes com as fotos e fico com um dossier completo sobre fotógrafos célebres.
Admira-me como tens tempo para isto, mas saúdo esta ideia genial.
Abraço
# posted by
SJS on February 6th, 2009 12:11 pm
Amigão, not only a really enjoyable game, but really educative also.
I have really enjoyed reading the biography, so many valuable messages there for us all.
I think that with this idea, you are performing a great service for all woophy people who can gain from this education (which = 99% of us!). Leonor's comment is greta and validates this point. Worth one more icon on the top, lol!
# posted by
A.Miguel Oliveira on February 6th, 2009 12:01 am
Right! Time for revelation!
It was 3,1416 (Sérgio), from... Mexico, who first guessed the Master's name! Congrats, Sérgio!
Thank you, everyone, for your participation!
It's time for a new "post" of a new Master. Hope to have it done in 20-30 minutes. See you;)
# posted by
A.Miguel Oliveira on February 5th, 2009 11:08 pm
Thanks Astrid, Leonor and José!
# posted by
Leonor Lapa on February 5th, 2009 9:10 pm
Miguel, que ideia GENIAL!!!!!!
Yupiiiiiiii!!! Finalmente vou começar a conhecer alguns fotógrafos, sem grande esforço.....confesso que reconhecia mais facilmente os trabalhos dos membros do Woophy :-) !!!!
E estou a ver que por aqui não faltam entendid@s na matéria. Claro, já nadei a pesquisar na net o Manuel Alvarez Bravo e outros que vieram de arrasto :-)!!
Claro que adorei as fotografias dele, em relação às três que colocaste, gosto também de todas:
a 1ª é surpreendente, ao princípio também me causou alguma repulsa mas depois, é incrível como pode ser tão bela, na composição, e na mensagem, a beleza, a serenidade, a justiça da imagem que tornam aquele homem imortal!!
A 2ª, uma bela fotografia, um modelo lindíssimo, uma composição com um leveza e um dramatismo, sensualidade, excepcional!
A 3ª, gosto muito, não resisto a algum grau de abstracto nas fotografias, neste caso a sombra da árvore. Acho fantástica a composição, em como as duas faixas escuras dão continuidade para além da imagem/sombra, deixando tudo em aberto!
OBRIGADAAAA!!!
P.S - Desculpem não estar em Inglês, mas ando com pouco tempo prás traduções ;-) ....lá está, o tempo voa!!
# posted by
Astrid Heilmann on February 4th, 2009 12:58 am
Dear Miguel
I am just not an expert in photographers to be able to guess a name. But I loved the studio photo (2) and number (3) seems to me to be part of a theater scenery ... The first (1) I don´t like to look at it because it really caueses me pain, what means that it is an excellent shot to be able to trigger such feelings!
Good luck for all players
# posted by
josecps on February 3rd, 2009 11:29 pm
Não gosto da da árvore!
# posted by
A.Miguel Oliveira on February 3rd, 2009 9:22 pm
@Thank you Hotop, SilviaO, Abílio and Stewart, for participating in this Blog!
A very special one to Teresa, with such a master comment!!!
Still two days left ;)
# posted by
Teresa Soares on February 3rd, 2009 8:27 pm
The name is revealed yet.
I prefer to comment the photos. The first, shows a dead man. The memory of him, an unknown, coagulates the image - as Susan Sontag will said (Cf. Regarding the paining of others). It´s a quotation of suffer in a time and a place when and where we live that are accostumed to violence by media, more than the time it was done. So, we all may be touched by it, but not so much as we think, in despite of it looks impressive: the man is dead, he seems not to be - he remains beautiful.
The second: I prefer refer concepts and leading ideas: "objectification" of the woman body; possessing the gaze, by men; voyeurism; fetichism; "scopophilia erotic pleasure gained in looking at this girl and this another body - Cf. John Pulz - Photography and the Body; Christian Metz - Photography and Fetish.
The third: I feel it as more trivial, due the image culture that exists today. It will be taken by anybody with a goal: to turn free a process of watching the things around us, as non real. ( By the way: Rachida Triki, 2008 - L´Image. Ce que l´on voit, ce que l ón crée. Paris: Larousse , Philosopher, p.17).
# posted by
SJS on February 3rd, 2009 7:31 pm
Virginia is right. This is a great way to learn about photographers & the history of photography. From the 1930s? Fascinating. Was a super idea you had, Mig!
# posted by
VirgíniaB on February 3rd, 2009 2:44 pm
I've found the second one in his collection of nudes - poemgraphy - a very interesting article. There's the third left, which I haven't seen yet. This is like Caça ao Tesouro, we learn a lot about a Mexican great photographer.
Thanks for the challenge!!
Abraço
V.
# posted by
VirgíniaB on February 3rd, 2009 6:47 am
Well, I followed the lead and know the first pic is by Manuel Alvarez Bravo, the same photo appears several times when you search for this name. I didn't know the photographer but now I'm doing some research. I couldn't find the second and third...but they are all of the same person, aren't they?
This is interesting.
# posted by
Abílio Silveira on February 3rd, 2009 2:11 am
I admit I knew the first picture, the one with the paradoxal quiet boy, but I didn't know the author. Manuel Alvarez Bravo, 3.1416 is right.
I followed his hint and found that the third picture is also from the same photographer. A shadow of a tree on a wall: there is some cinematographic mood on this projection of a kind of a movie on a wall, like those open air cinemas of our grandparents.
The middle one, the naked girl: an absolute perfect body, just lying there as a lamb to be slaughtered by our inner and deeper thoughts. Manuel Alvarez Bravo too, I presume?
# posted by
A.Miguel Oliveira on February 3rd, 2009 1:02 am
@Sérgio, thank you for your participation! Next thursday I'll reveal the correct answers to everyone;). Thanks.
# posted by
3.1416 on February 3rd, 2009 1:00 am
The first pictures is one of my favs at all the time, this young dead boy are smiling, is strong and delicate at the same time.
# posted by
3.1416 on February 3rd, 2009 12:58 am
2.-Manuel Alvarez Bravo
I think, The blue house, nudes 1939 but im not sure.
# posted by
3.1416 on February 3rd, 2009 12:48 am
1.-Manuel Alvarez Bravo
Striking Worker Murdered 1934
# posted by
3.1416 on February 3rd, 2009 12:40 am
The second are from the same photographer but the third Im not sure.
# posted by
3.1416 on February 3rd, 2009 12:36 am
Sorry Manuel Alvarez Bravo...:-)
# posted by
3.1416 on February 3rd, 2009 12:35 am
Miguel the first picture is easy to me
Is the mexican photographer Miguel Alvarez Bravo.
# posted by
SilviaO on February 2nd, 2009 11:16 pm
Oh Miguel!!
I must to learn a lot!! I will follow the comments.
Good idea and tell me!!!!!!! Whos are the photographer?
# posted by
Hotop on February 2nd, 2009 10:50 pm
Must be Joris Ivens.
# posted by
A.Miguel Oliveira on February 2nd, 2009 10:13 pm
@Ruud (fotogravenswaay), Virgínia and David: thank you for your participation! Very interesting comments from you, David;).
I'm really happy with these kind of comments as if we were writing about woophyans' pics! Very interesting indeed! Hope more members still come here. Thanks!
# posted by
david moran on February 2nd, 2009 9:30 pm
hu miguel. may i say what a good idea, should arouse some interest. to the photos. agree with Fotogravenswaay. the first is journalistic. second a studio shot. third a street scene.
the first photo brings me to my answer of "Weegee" he was very friendly with the manhattan police and took many violent scenes 1935-1945.
the nude photo would seem to come from about this time.
the street scene could also fit into this category.
as for rating them
1 violent scene 5 but slightly under exposed
2 the nude 5+ beautiful phot, lovely tone and respectable lighing.
3 street sceen 4 good shot under light condition.
# posted by
VirgíniaB on February 2nd, 2009 9:27 pm
Miguel, I wish I knew a lot about photography, but I don't. I only know some names and would not recognize any photos from each other. If it were painting, maybe...
Anyway, I think this is a great idea and I hope to learn from others about a subject which I practise but know nothing about.
I prefer the third pic to the other two. The first is too realistic and there's too much blood. The second is too perfect, a perfect body, a perfect pose, a perfect photo. The third is more ambiguous, it looks like something reflected on a screen, but could also be shadows behind a white blind, I like this one.
Good luck
# posted by
fotogravenswaay on February 2nd, 2009 7:44 pm
You have my support to Miguel....
the first picture seems to me a journalistic photo
the second photo, studiowork, controlled light and other controlled settings
the third a street photo, I think the shadow and white wall tract the attention of the photographer. Many of these kinds of photo's are found on the internet, if the photographers were inspired by this one, or just also saw the composition I dont know.....
It is a photographer with much interests and always carried a camera around.......but who??......really don't know....:(
# posted by
A.Miguel Oliveira on February 2nd, 2009 7:08 pm
Thank you, SJS and Jan Hemels. I forgot to mention that the answer will ONLY be done next wednesday, will it be right or wrong member's tries, in the meanwhile. This, so that others can have a go and discuss with you if you could be wrong or not;)
# posted by
SJS on February 2nd, 2009 7:00 pm
Sebastião Salgado, 1960s/70s?
# posted by
Jan Hemels on February 2nd, 2009 6:57 pm
Robert Capa maybe????
# posted by
SJS on February 2nd, 2009 6:57 pm
When I could only see one pic, the dead guy, I thought of Don McCullin as a possibility. When I then came back & found the other 2, I had to reject D. Mc.
Given the work he is best known for, I can't imagine he would ever have taken a time-out to produce such a competent, artistic nude.
As for the tree, it looks like a woophy classic. I'm trying to imitate it right now!
The answer's not Robbie Keane, is it? I hope Keano's the answer for Spurs, however!
# posted by
Jan Hemels on February 2nd, 2009 6:52 pm
the first one is from the Civil War in Spain the others ..... ??
# posted by
A.Miguel Oliveira on February 2nd, 2009 6:27 pm
@Ortho, amazing imagination;))). Not far from the reason of my choice of his/her 3 pics...;)))
# posted by
ortho158 on February 2nd, 2009 6:24 pm
a story connecting the pics:
the lover of the woman was killed by the husband, who is now going to commit suicide (by hanging)
# posted by
A.Miguel Oliveira on February 2nd, 2009 6:14 pm
@Thank you, Dieuwertje, for your support!
@Thank you, TBM, for your comments! That's it! Interesting way of seeing those master's work! Regarding the name... not the more important, anyway! Let's see other member's hints. You can, if you like, try to place it in a certain decade or even the country origin ;)
# posted by
TBM on February 2nd, 2009 6:06 pm
Well, Miguel, I'm very upset! I'm sure I saw this Master's pics in a Photo book time ago, at least I remembere the series of the slain people. Yet I cannont remember who the hell is this artist... It is very frustrating... ;-)
# posted by
Dieuwertje on February 2nd, 2009 6:02 pm
Good idea Miguel, but I am not good in this topic, sorry but I wish you succes with it.
# posted by
TBM on February 2nd, 2009 6:01 pm
No.1: Impressive, dramatic b&w. I like the two converging diagonals of the arm and the blood stream, that conducts the sight towards the victim's head. -5-
No.2: Beauty after such horror! An elegant nude, attractive but not provoking, thanks also to an almost high-key structure. Excellent classic composition, the wide white wall gives breath to the image. -5-
No.3: Probably the photographer triggered his camera by mistake while taking it out from his camera-bag... no rating...
# posted by
SJS on February 2nd, 2009 4:38 pm
There it is, at last.
Não explicaste uma coisa: podemos colocar respostas cá, desde agora? Tenho um palpite.....
# posted by
A.Miguel Oliveira on February 2nd, 2009 2:51 pm
Oops, thank you all!
Now... let's the game FINALLY begin.
Who is the author of the pic?
You can also leave your comments on it.
(see you wednesday).
# posted by
ortho158 on February 2nd, 2009 2:49 pm
OK now.
# posted by
ortho158 on February 2nd, 2009 2:45 pm
Miguel/Joris,
the problem is not with Picasa Albums. The first blog of Jan Hemels uses Picasa Albums, and works. I just tried (on a blog item called Test), and it works fine (I mean I looked at the blog with different browsers and PC's, and I see the image). So, the problem must be somewhere else.
# posted by
A.Miguel Oliveira on February 2nd, 2009 2:43 pm
Thanks!
And now that I changed the host to "tinypic" as Fotogravensway had suggested, do you see it?
# posted by
joris on February 2nd, 2009 2:19 pm
Miguel,
The place where you image is hosted apparently does not allows showing an image on another site. Some sites don’t like it when you just use them as storage.
I checked the url and that works fine so nothing wrong with the url. And when you once download the file on your computer you will keep on seeing the image in the blog (comes from your browsers cache) . However other people don’t see it.
My advice use another site to store the image like flickr
# posted by
A.Miguel Oliveira on February 2nd, 2009 1:59 pm
I've made the changes Ortho suggested (except the capital letters that I couldn't control in the origin). Can you see it now! I do again! Pfffff.
# posted by
SJS on February 2nd, 2009 12:44 pm
Biba Matey!!
Can we try to play this game by some form of collective telepathy?
In this, you do not actually post the classic photo, but we all just sit in a virtual circle, chanting, and at a determined moment, we all concentrate on visualising it.
Or shall I just have a guess that Photo #1 is not by Daguerre????
Grtz
# posted by
paulo.trindade on February 2nd, 2009 11:52 am
miguel...onde tá a foto carago?
abraço.
paulo
# posted by
Akbar Simonse on February 2nd, 2009 11:33 am
I don't see it!
# posted by
ortho158 on February 2nd, 2009 8:15 am
Miguel, at first, I did not see it, but now it's OK (but maybe not for other members: in the meantime, I did a number of things with your url, so that I don't know if it appears because it's already in the cache of my Internet Explorer). I would, anyway, suggest that you use a simpler naming scheme than " Woophy_Blog.01.JPG": maybe Woophy doesn't like the two dots, or the JPG in capital letters. I suggest that you ask Marcel for guidance.
# posted by
Abílio Silveira on February 2nd, 2009 2:18 am
No picture indeed!
# posted by
A.Miguel Oliveira on February 2nd, 2009 1:52 am
lol! Can't you see it, Geert?????????? I see it just 6 cms above this comment! What the hell is happening now????
# posted by
geert geenen on February 2nd, 2009 1:45 am
miguel, where is the photo?