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Evanickelbridger
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# Posted: 4 Jul 07 01:28
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Hey, not quite sure where to put this, but I'm looking at getting a DSLR sometime, and I was looking at the Nikon D80. As for comparison I'd like to see the equivalent made by Canon - can anyone enlighten me?
Also can anyone suggest a good camera or which to choose between Canon and Nikon and why?
At the moment I have a bridge/hybrid camera - a Kodak Z710, which is good, but limited.
Thanks!
ENBr
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Marcos
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# Posted: 4 Jul 07 01:53
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Hi Evanickelbridger, I have been looking for a DSLR lately, so on here I have the answer for your question after being looking for the camera which best fits to me, I have read about Pentax models which were awesome and some Nikon models but I can say that If I have to decide which camera to buy right now I will answer Canon but it is something very personal as we know.
Here you have the model which in my opinion is "like" D80, EOS 400D/Digital Rebel Xti:
Canon EOS 400D / Digital Rebel XTi Review: 1. Introduction: Digital Photography Review:
And here you have a comparison of both:
Canon EOS 400D / Digital Rebel XTi Review: 22. Compared to...: Digital Photography Review:
If you keep on looking at the site I posted here you will find a comparison of the same cameras (D80 vs EOS 400D) at higher ISO settings and also the EOS 400D comapred with other manufacturers models.
Greetings and I hope this will be useful for you. ;-)
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www.imagografie.ch
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# Posted: 4 Jul 07 06:47
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hi ENBr
i would say both camera are good. i had only the nikon in my hands till now. the best advise i can give you is to go in a shop, and have them in your hands!
i wantet first the canon after all i read about the prize and so on. but after i had it in my hands i prefered the nikon. ( i have the 'older' models compared to each other.. and i bought the nikon D70s) it just fittet better in my hands. can't explain why...
and be aware: the first camera brands you with that label! ;-) i descovered under my fotofriends, that everyone stayed with the label he/she bought first.. (interesting, isn't?) so; choose it wise! :-)
greetings Bunny
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Oscar_
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# Posted: 4 Jul 07 07:58
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Hello Evanickelbridger, I bought myself a Canon EOS400D for some months ago and I'm very happy with it.
I have the body with the battery grip because the camera is a little bit to small for me so that's why I have the battery grip. You can also make pics vertical with the button on top, very handy. My wife has also bought the EOS400D without the battery grip. So the camera fits small handed people and big hand people like me.
I have the Tamron 18-200mm lens wich I like very much. It is a great allround lens and you don't have to change when you travel. Recently I bought the Matz flash.
Have a look at my latest pics for the results with this set.
Succes with choosing !
Oscar
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spark
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# Posted: 5 Jul 07 13:45
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A good topic Evan,i have been thinking about buying a SLR myself so thank you all for the advice,its a difficult job deciding which camera and lens to buy,its between the canon400d and the pentaxk110,i think i will buy the tamron 18-200 to go with one of them.Just when you have made your decision,you get this nagging dought in your head saying do i realy need a SLR ,what is wrong with the compact i am using,it takes some nice pictures,and its small enough to carry around at all times,then you imagine all the fantastic images that might be passing you bye.I suppose one of these days i will just go out and buy one,and then regret all the time iv wasted as mister scrooge,best wishes to you all from Wales,Steve.
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drora
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# Posted: 5 Jul 07 14:00
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today I got a new camera - olympus sp-550uz (optical zoom x18).........hope i'll do better.
does anyone have this camera???
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Zazi
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# Posted: 5 Jul 07 19:33
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This really is a great topic! (Wishing that I had posted it prior to my purchase of the Rebel XTi.) I love my camera, but am not happy with the lenses that came in the package "sale" purchase, as the lenses are bellow average & if you're going to spend that much money, then you should get the best lenses you can afford!
Marcos gave you some good links. I suggest that you check out as many comparisons as possible. Here in the States, we have Consumer Reports, which also have a website. This magazine/website gives comparisons withought owing anything to manufactures. (I like that.) Also check out some of the latest Digital Camera magazines, when they do comparisons, but keep in mind that some mags and companies are running adverts at the same time as rating thier equipment.
Also, I agree with Bunny, that you should go to a store, and hold the camera in your hands. It makes a huge difference, when you're taking hand-held shots, if you're not comfortable with the grib on the camera. (Check it with different sized lenses, aswell.) I have a friend that has the Canon 400D, and when I've borrowed it, I've noticed that it felt too bulky in my hands. *BUT> he has better lenses, and I can tell the difference in the photos.
*Hmmm, I just thought of something ... Are you right or left-handed? Is that an issue with left-handed photogs? Should Camera companies take this into concideration? (Just curious).
Good luck with your research & purchase! (Just remember that the quality of the lenses that you purchse, are just as important as the base camera. OK?
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Bernhard
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# Posted: 6 Jul 07 00:14
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Just when you have made your decision,you get this nagging dought in your head saying do i realy need a SLR ,what is wrong with the compact i am using,it takes some nice pictures,and its small enough to carry around at all times,then you imagine all the fantastic images that might be passing you bye.I suppose one of these days i will just go out and buy one,and then regret all the time iv wasted as mister scrooge
Spark, these were exactly my thoughts during the last few weeks.
Yesterday I decided to spent some money, now I am the lucky owner of a Nikon D80, with an AF-S DX 18-70 and an AF-S VR 70-300 lens. And the multi-power battery pack.
I tried the Canon EOS 400, the Pentax K10D and the Nikon with different lenses in the store (I have been there for nearly two hours), the Nikon had the best feel (haptics?) for me.
I also liked the Pentax, but was not so sure about the lenses.
Today I bought a Lowepro Slingshot 200 AW, all the new gear fits well inside.
Well, all that new stuff should keep me busy leaning for a while.
Regards,
Bernhard
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Zazi
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# Posted: 6 Jul 07 00:42
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Hey Bernhard,
That was soo perfect! Love how you expressed most of our concerns prior to going in for the big lunge.
Way interresting that you purchased two (2) cameras ... And that you checked out all of those that have been suggested, and that I would have, if given the same data.
Evan, I think that makes a good point ... Bernhard's purchase of two cameras. Perhaps, if you've got enough cash, then you can also go that route, and have a camera for each different situation you might find yourself in.
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Bernhard
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# Posted: 6 Jul 07 08:33
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Zazi,
actually there might be a slight misunderstanding, I didn't buy two cameras. I bought a Nikon D80 and a Lowepro bag.
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Evanickelbridger
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# Posted: 6 Jul 07 17:25
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Thanks for all these replies! Sorry I haven't replied in a while...
@spark - I agree 100% - perfect description of buying anything remotely better than what you had before!
Thanks Marcos for the links - nice to see them side by side, but I went into a nearby shop today and was impressed with the D80 compared to the 400D. It feels better to hold, buttons laid out more logically (I feel), and the manual focus switch on the lenses I tried and the manual focus band felt sturdier on the D80. So, all I need now is the money! And I might just hold myself back a little longer, I only bought my Kodak at the beginning of this year, so I'll try to use it just for the year, then use it as my backup camera, or for shooting wildlife. Come to think of it, how is the DSLR shutter noise when you photo wildlife like birds, deer and so on? Just in case they decide to run away before I can get a photo in :)
@Zazi - I'm right handed :) - makes no difference to me! Any left handers would be interesting to hear from.
Also, do people use the viewfinders with their left or right eye - I use my left (because it's better, and feels more natural), and for those who wear glasses, how do you manage with getting those irritating marks on them from the viewfinder?
Also I'm looking for lenses I won't regret, should I get Nikkor ones, or just go for Sigmas and so on? (I've heard some of the Canon/Nikon lenses may be rebranded Sigmas)
Thanks again for all the replies!
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olmze
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# Posted: 6 Jul 07 17:38
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Hello,
if you want to read some reviews look here:
http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/index.php
Regards, Oliver
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www.imagografie.ch
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# Posted: 6 Jul 07 18:22
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@Evanickelbridger: the nikon D80 ist easy to handle for people who are wearing glasses! you can change the focus on the view finder so you can see it clearly without glasses! but it has no changes on the lens focus. (hope you understand what i mean with that...)
greetings
Bunny
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Evanickelbridger
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# Posted: 7 Jul 07 00:46
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@Bunny person :) Thanks! I know what you mean - I've played around with it, nice to see cameras come with all sorts of gadgets!
Looking forward to getting it (hopefully sometime!)
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