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Wesley
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# Posted: 26 Jul 06 22:47
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Hi all,
I could really use some tips and tricks about dealing with under- and overexposed parts of a picture. And also about losing colour because of the adjustments you make.
For example this picture:
because the colour in the foreground looked rather flat en dead,
and the colour in the middle seemed like nothing would make any difference,
I made the decission of increasing contrast in the entire pic an pull the saturation up.
resulting in this:
As Johanna has well put... lighten it up a little. But how far would you go?
because lightening it up would mean losing contrast and warm colour.
any comment is more than welcome,
because this is a choice I come across a lot.
Kind Regards,
Wesley
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Ruud van Ruitenbeek
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# Posted: 27 Jul 06 10:37 - Edited by: Ruud van Ruitenbeek
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For this picture you have set yourself an almost impossible task by shooting into the sun. As a result there is a very big dynamic range in the image: the shadows are very dark and large bits of the sky are burnt out. This is one area where having top of the range equipment would be useful: more expensive cameras and lenses (and film....) are better able to deal with a wide dynamic range.
There are various tools and methods in Photoshop that you can use to rescue this type of image. One way is to create two (or more) tif files from the same RAW file each with exposure adjusted for one particular part of the image (ideally you would have taken the same shot on a tripod with different exposre setting). In Photoshop CS2 there is a special tool for then blending these images into one called 'Merge to HDR'. There is a very good article on using this here: Luminous Landscape (this is a brilliant website for the more advanced photographers by the way).
A less complicated way is creating diferrent layers from the same shot and blending them with layer masks.
I hope other people will share their preferred method.
Ruud's Eye
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Wesley
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# Posted: 27 Jul 06 11:36
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Hi Ruud,
thank you very much for your comment.
I know shooting into the sun isn't the best choice to make, and I remember that every time I'm about to do it. BUT... every time I shoot in anyway :-)
This is because the landscape or object looks really really great in real life.
I understand that a better camera and lens would make quite a difference. I use a EOS300D with the lens from the kit. (crap lens - I know)
The photoshop part really interest me though. The problem I have is that I use Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.0 and I really really like it. But... it doesn't read the raw files that come from my canon (crw) So what I need to do then is convert the CRW to a TIFF. When I then read the TIFF with Adobe photoshop elements 2.0, I get the message that the colour-depth isn't supported. So from the more or less 40mb pic, there's only a good 16 left. I've got the impression that I've lost quite a bit of important color and light by then. (I think that it will not even be 16bit depth afterwards)
I really loved the article, but unfortunately, I can't even get to that stage yet.
So if you have any suggestions about better ways to convert my pics (or tell me to get rid of Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.0) please don't hesitate.
Kind Regards,
Wesley
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Ruud van Ruitenbeek
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# Posted: 27 Jul 06 15:00
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I cannot remember exactly which tools are in Photoshop CS and not in Elements, but if you have the Shadow/highlights tool (under Image|Adjustments I think) that can be useful in these circustances too.
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RonaldV
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# Posted: 27 Jul 06 20:55
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Interesting topic:-) If you want to look into the sun, you want to have sunglasses. Your canon would appreciate that to. First stap in my opinion is a good polirizer. I have to buy somy myself also.
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Wesley
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# Posted: 27 Jul 06 21:18
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Ruud,
I found a tool on the canon website that allows me to save a CRW as different tiffs with different white-balance etc. Now I can start trying to use and experiment with it. i also looked at Photoshop CS2. Looks very interesting but er... 833 euros? No can do! I'm not even an amateur!!!
Lol Ronald,
I thought you allready used a polarisor in this pic
 by RonaldV (again... like it bigtime)
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RonaldV
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# Posted: 27 Jul 06 21:22 - Edited by: RonaldV
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No that one is still without
(thanks for advertising:-);-))
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Wesley
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# Posted: 28 Jul 06 18:26
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@ Ruud,
als ik jou en het artikel dat je als link doorgaf goed begrijp, is de idee dat je verschillende lichtsettings over elkaar kleeft, en dat het interessantste is dat je de dit soort foto's met een multi-bracketing neemt, om het licht op het moment van de foto zelf onder handen te nemen. Is dat zo'n beetje correct?
Wesley
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