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www.jgreentree.co.uk
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# Posted: 23 Apr 08 23:57
After looking at every thing put , people have put some good views together but reading the blog again there are some points that are very leading and now can see he is a professional journalist . I should have learnt from last time not to get involved in the forum if i feel so strongly about something so im going to come away before i say or do something silly 
Very professional piece of journalism maybe a paper or TV station would snap him up.
But for me its not the pictures so much that have really upset me its the wording , some of too leading but thats just my take on it. Think next time i shall just bypass the blog section and just view pictures as they are uploaded.
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giz
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# Posted: 24 Apr 08 00:21
Ruden made it clear what I was thinking and could not express. I also think that Guus' blog is brilliant and that he is giving us a very clear view of Nepal and that he is not provoking a political discussion. He is an eyewitness and encounters on his travels certain circumstances.
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Guus Koelman
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# Posted: 24 Apr 08 07:51
Dear Woophyans,
Thank you for your comments and initiative on this forum.
Here is my point of view concerning these questions.
As you can read in the philosophy of Woophy: “The goal of Woophy's founders is to create an accessible, visual, current, democratic and collective work of art comprised of a database picturing our remarkable world.” A noble statement which I support.
I don’t have to remind anybody that the world is not only about beautiful sunsets or pictures of happy little children. There is a lot of violence and misery out there and personally I would like to see more of this on Woophy. If you want to show what the world is all about, you should be realistic.
From what I’ve learned of the owners and read in the news section; Woophy is not a particularly successful site. There are many photography and travel sites like this on the web and I think that Woophy should look at way’s to distinguish itself. A site where you can find (civil) journalism, beautiful photos and travel stories might just be this site.
Concerning politics I fully agree with the remarks made by Ruden Fretsbo.
Today I will post a few photos a Tibetan journalist working in Nepal send to me. He explained to me that a lot of these images nearly got published.
Photo’s like these are often not published because the source is vague or because there is not enough information provided with them. Blog’s, forums and internet sites are an important medium for the distribution of images like this. Personally I think everybody in the world should see these.
This brings me to another issue. I did not post every image I received. Some of the photos are too horrible to post on a public site like this. I don’t think that this is the case concerning the pictures I’ve posted about the Tibetan protest in Kathmandu. If anybody disagrees, let me know and tell me why. Overkill might be a problem, this is something I will think about in the next couple of days.
I should have made it more clear in the introduction that I work as a (travel)journalist. I will change the introduction.
I will continue to work on this story for a while. If you have an opinion about the issues above or my work, please let me know.
Best wishes,
Guus
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giz
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# Posted: 24 Apr 08 09:46
thank you Guus for this reaction,I will continue to follow your blog!
Good luck,Giz
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jackfre
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# Posted: 24 Apr 08 12:04
I really don't understand what 's all the fuss about. You don't want political pictures? You don't want photo's that shows you what's wrong in this world? So WHY DID YOU crown Gavos photo , I don't remember exactly which one but it is something like this one 286549
as photo of the year??? He is a great,great reporter and photographer in my eyes, and all theories disappear with such talent. Such photo's are very dangerous to take, sometimes you risk your life, just for a picture.
Personally I'm too chicken to take such pictures, the most daring I can do is a crying baby like on 518241
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jackfre
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# Posted: 24 Apr 08 12:12
And I comply entirely with you, Guus. We live in a sheltered world, but 3/4 and even more live in deep misery. If you desire I can mail you a pps " Global Village" where you will understand how serious the problem is today. Just mail me.
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giz
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# Posted: 24 Apr 08 13:32
So WHY DID YOU crown Gavos photo : jackfre said, and this is completely besides the point. Gavo was chosen in the HQ of woophy and they stimulate and approve of Guus' blog as you can read in this topic.
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jackfre
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# Posted: 24 Apr 08 13:49
Sorry my mistake, Giz, I was sure it were the Woophyans who elected the photographer of the year. But if the HQ chose Gavo, why don't I remember protests from Woophy members that they don't approve the choice because of the clear political point of view? There was surely no topic at that time or not one I can remember 
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Geoffrey McElwaine
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# Posted: 24 Apr 08 13:57
Folks. This Forum has rather drifted from the original point, made by Ortho -
“ …. I believe that Woophy is not a forum for the defense or condemnation of ideologies. I am not against pictures with a political flavour; but I also think that it is enough to post a couple of them, and not hundreds. “
Let me remind you what Woophy is all about :
“The goal of Woophy's founders is to create an accessible, visual, current, democratic and collective work of art comprised of a database picturing our remarkable world.
With the help of (amateur) photographers across the world we strive to ultimately cover every inch of our world map with images that represent the world's beauty and peculiarity from all different cultural perspectives. ”
In light of this, I agree with Ortho. Were every Woophy member to use the site as a platform to express political ( and other contentious ) opinions - no matter how legitimate - I’m afraid that its current friendly ethos will be lost. ( Sadly, some of the foregoing discussion provides evidence of that ! ) If that happened, I for one would have to consider whether to continue my membership.
Regards
Geoff. ( Geoffrey McElwaine )
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jackfre
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# Posted: 24 Apr 08 14:05
In French they say: se voiler la face! Put a veil on your eyes! Picturing only romantic pictures, idyllic landscapes, funny scenes, statues and buildings is fine, but forgets the reality of life. Modern photoghraphy includes everything what happens in the world, despite how you interprete Woophy's official goal.
This is my personal meaning. No offense to them who disagree,they will stay my friends 
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joopvandijk
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# Posted: 24 Apr 08 15:41
I think Ruden gave the best answer.
When you take pictures in a country, life on the street, events, the poverty, the living standard, you can't prevent that you show something about the situation in a country,
that makes many pictures political.
Bogers pictures are very well rated, he's showing the multicultural life in Holland and imo he makes a statement by showing them. (multicultural = beautifull)
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ortho158
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# Posted: 24 Apr 08 16:01
Thank you all for your reactions. Guus wanted to open a discussion after my comment in his blog, and we have had it.
I am now closing the topic.
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