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TBM
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# Posted: 29 Mar 08 15:02
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Dear all,
I'd like to know your opinion about these two pictures. I was on the beach of Celle Ligure some days ago, and I took a few pics of the people walking along the shore line. Here are two versions, which one do you like better? Colour or b&w? 4:3 or panorama? (Please note that the second is sharper just because I used the contrast mask filter after resizing the pic for the upload)
Best regards from sunny Italy
Mario
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pansa
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# Posted: 29 Mar 08 17:33 - Edited by: pansa
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I like both pxs, but IMO the second one is better because of the compo. The water line runs nicely from the bottom left corner to the silhouettes and guides the viewing. It tends a bit to overexposure in the right.
On the other hand the first one has some interesting shapes of foam in the water.
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aiso
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# Posted: 29 Mar 08 17:43
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Hi TBM,
I agree with pansa, but imo your point of vieuw is for both pict. too high, because to get nice silhouettes you need a lower point of vieuw.. but maybe I am wrong...
aiso
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Geoffrey McElwaine
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# Posted: 29 Mar 08 17:51
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Both are nice : it's difficult to choose ! I do, however, think that the figure in your coloured picture adds such a strong feeling of the joy of being alive : to me, this sets it apart. The B. & W. is a classic diagonal composition. It may be regarded as a " better " picture, but I prefer the " life " in the coloured one.
Regards
Geoff. ( Geoffrey McElwaine )
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Ruden Fretsbo
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# Posted: 29 Mar 08 18:11
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Hi TBM!
I prefer for sure the first one. First of all because being a picture against the light it looks allready almost like a b&w but with a nice tonality that enhances the image. Also I like more the expression of the figure, much more vivid... Also the water texture is better in the first one... The only thing that I prefer from the second is the framing.
Anyway, both look very nice... Only if I where you I'd crop both in 3x2 and with the original color. If you still want to prove a b&w I'd recommend a warmer tone for this.
Hope you find this helpful!
Ciao!
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Vidar S
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# Posted: 29 Mar 08 18:41
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Hi TBM!
I like them both, but I prefer the first picture because of the color of the water, the waterlines and the shape of the model. I also agree a little with aiso. Because of the angle, it seems to me that a huge wave is about to hit the model.
I dont feel the same about the wave on the second picture. It is also a great picture, but as a winner I would say the first picture. 
Cheers
Vidar
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bruha2
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# Posted: 29 Mar 08 20:28
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I like the stark grittyness of No2. To me the figure in No1 looks a bit silly. If you hang about like that near the surf you end up as a statistic.
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fotogravenswaay
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# Posted: 29 Mar 08 20:44
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they are both good pictures , as the others say it is dufficult to choose...........but after some good looking and playing around with the pictures in photoshop I should say try the crop of the second picture onto the first picture, crop it just under the feet of the girl( ? ) .....IMO it makes a better composed picture.
knid regards ruud
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TBM
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# Posted: 29 Mar 08 21:44
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Dear friends,
first of all, thanks a lot for your helpful comments. It is a great pleasure to confront opinions.
So, you see, it's a draw! 3 answers are for no.1, 3 for no.2, and fotogravenswaay suggests a mixture of the two pics... But, beyond personal preferences, all answers agree that no. 2 is a better composition, while the figure in no.1 is more original (in a good or a bad sense, as bruha2 pointed).
@pansa: I didn't notice the overexposure before, but now I see you're right. I'll have to work on the istogram
@aiso: actually, I took the pictures from a sort of balcony above the beach. Anyway, I think thati it would have been impossible to get the silhouette against the foam from a lower POV
@Geoffrey: what you say is exactly the reason why I uploaded first no.1. A couple of days later, seeng the pics again, I decided to give a chance also to no.2...
@ruden: colour or not colour? That is the question...I'll try with 3:2 and a warmer tone, I'll let you know
@Vidar: menacing wave? In part, it is an effect of the telephoto lens. In part, it was that strange Monday after Easter, I had never seen such a particular swell. The waves were rather big, but they all died 15 mt from the shore...
@bruha 2: ... and this little girl went to the shore line and began her strange dance, pirouetting and jumping in the foam... I was glad I had a camera with me;
@fotogravenswaay: believe it or not, your proposal was the first experiment I made before uploading the pictures... but I was not completely sure of the results, It seems that pic no1 looses a bit of depth with the framing of pic no.2. But I will try it again.
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A.Miguel Oliveira
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# Posted: 29 Mar 08 22:05
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Hi, Mario! As I know you do want our true opinion, I must say that I clearly prefer the second one, almost with the explanation of Pansa and Bruha2! Before going on, however, you already can see there isn't a consensual opinion here. Why not the first one? First, I really don't think the compo helps! Second, the foam at the front, neverthless it's nicer design, but also maybe on account of that, distracts too much from the supposed most important subject, the person! Third, his/her position isn't nice at all, as Bruha2 says! We even don't understand if he/she's making gymnastics or surfing. Our eyes are lost everywhere and nowhere. I very much respect our great friend's opinion, Geoff's, but don't think it's joy that it shows. Also I risk to go against another great photographer's opinion, Ruden's, but don't think the colour at the first one is so relevant and a positive point!
On the other hand, the second one as a much better compo, where the colour (if similar to the first one) isn't missing, but the b/w helps to get a more harmonious whole! Maybe the upper right side is a bit overexposed, but not too much. The compo is almost or totally perfect, even with a great harmony between the two persons (perfect the feet line against the foam) and each one by his-self. Peaceful walk! So, not more than one opinion, definitely the second pic is my great favourite!
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A.Miguel Oliveira
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# Posted: 29 Mar 08 22:06
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While writing you wrote something I still haven't read: Just to see it now!
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fotogravenswaay
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# Posted: 29 Mar 08 22:53
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I didn't anything else because the colours and brilliance of the picture is fine, but I think the combination of both pictures makes IMO the best .......
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Ruden Fretsbo
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# Posted: 30 Mar 08 00:26
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Yes! The interpretation of fotogravenswaay it's reallyt close to what I imagined... maybe you could try like this...
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TBM
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# Posted: 30 Mar 08 11:29
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Fotogravenswaay, that's a great work! You see, when I tried to crop that pic I experimented that format too, but, since I didn't want to loose the foam in the lower part, I didn't cut the image just under the girl's fett, as you did. Now I see that yours is the best choice, the composition is much more balanced. Who knows if this is going to be liked also by those who prefer no.2....
Miguel: I do not want to seem excessively romantic, but when that little girl started dancing on the beach it was really a magic moment, one of those moments when the simple greatness of little nice things appears who knows how... I tried to catch that beauty with my camera, and now I realize that some viewers percieve the joy of the moment, others don't. This is certainly my fault, probably I did not get the perfect instant, maybe the girl's spontaneous and unskilled dance was not plastic enough to be frozen in a picture... Certainly, if the message does not arrive quite clear to all, that means that it is not expressed properly...
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Lali
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# Posted: 30 Mar 08 14:18
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Certainly, if the message does not arrive quite clear to all, that means that it is not expressed properly...
@TBM; I do not agree with you , no way!!!
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Geoffrey McElwaine
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# Posted: 30 Mar 08 15:50 - Edited by: Geoffrey McElwaine
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Mario. You're way too hard on yourself ! I agree with Lali. What struck me immediately about your coloured picture was the person's sheer joy at being young and alone on the beach. It was this which gave your picture such a strong appeal to me !
Regards
Geoff. ( Geoffrey McElwaine )
P.S. I prefer your original to the " cropped " version. The line of surf leads the eye towards the young dancer, and makes for a much stronger composition.
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Famagal
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# Posted: 30 Mar 08 16:33
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I like both,but the first one with the shape of foam in the water me piacce de più.
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TBM
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# Posted: 30 Mar 08 19:10
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Still a draw... we're going to penalty kicks!
Thank you Lali and Geoffrey, but I really think that one must be hard on himself in order to improve.
Famagal: wow, "me piacce de più" is typical Roman dialect  ! Are you of Roman origins?
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