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Corneel Timmermans
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# Posted: 27 Oct 07 00:18
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Hi,
I decided to ask you´re help for some comments and tips. I decided to get up early to catch the fog and dew on the fields in Friesland. I couldn´t get out of my warm bed so I was little late. The session resulted in the 6 results on which I would like some comment and better how to improve...
I´ll kick off myself for some thoughts.
Overall I´m again caught by the imperfection of digital camera´s (eos400d with nice lense) is the trouble with grass, brickwork (walls) and skin... but that´s something different...
This one I like most, it catches the freshness I wanted to show. The fog and upcoming sun gives quite desatured colors and "coldness."
This one I´m not sure, it doesn´t seem special, maybe a view on the landscape of Friesland but the " modern" windmill doesn´t stand out much. The fog creates a slightly tilting of the horizon effect (it´s straight) In all a moderate photo....?
This one is already better, show the desertness and early morning and it has the story of the changing landscpae in it with the traditional farm and modern windmill. The windmill is slightly lit by the upcoming sun. Still no outstanding photo.
This one is a nice picture but not more, could be the basis of a nice painting, the fall colors, the not entirely still water with bridge reflection. Again not special..?
This one is more difficult I couldn´t really decide between this one and the next. The fog returned, the sun was already quite high and straight in front. Still the freshness was around but was it caught in the photo.. isn´t the sky / fog overlit and the cows due to the fog too vage? Which would you chose this or the next, why..
What can be done to improve or nothing...
And... finally which one can remain? 1,2,3 or just none of themand get up and get out of bed way before sunrise....
Corneel
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Oscar_
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# Posted: 27 Oct 07 09:52
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Hello Corneel, to bad you had some problems with your warm bed. I can imagine that it is hard to get up early for some pics.
The first picture is in my opinion not so beautiful. As you said the grass isn't to nice and the details are not that good. I have those problems to with my canon 400d.
The second and the third picture with the windmill is pretty beautiful. They are both beautiful pics with a good atmosphere. They look very relaxing. Like such kind of pics.
In my opinion they can't be improved, they are fine the way they are.
The picture with the bridge is very nice. The landscape with the typical Friese bridge is very nice. The lights and the color tones are fine. Also the reflection in the water looks very good. Fine the way it is IMO.
The last two pictures are a little bit to bright. The lights are to strong in my opinion, The fog is not well seen in those both shots. I don't know but I think you missed the effect of the fog in those pics. Maybe you can recover the lights so the fog is more coming out in the pic. The pictures are not bad but also not that beautiful.
If I must choose out of these serie of pics I would choose the third one.
But Corneel, maybe you have to get up earlier and do this again ;-)
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soyoban
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# Posted: 27 Oct 07 10:19
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Hi Corneel, it's a difficult atmosphere to catch, but the result is acceptable.
I think there is a little tilt in the horizon with the bridge picture...
And i prefer the third one.
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pansa
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# Posted: 27 Oct 07 12:51
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Hi Corneel
The problem with the warm bed can be solved byshooting late in the afternoon on those days that the ground fog is coming on the fields. I did it some time ago (see 239357, 233967, 233968 and 233511).
Now about you pxs. The first one is very average because it has no focal point. The second and third are quite good expressing the foggy atmosphere. I prefer the third one because it is more interesting with details. The bridge px is IMO acceptable but the sky looks a bit worn-out. The compo is very good with all elements at the right place. The cow pxs look overexposed instead of foggy.
This is one of the late afternoon pxs, that I mentioned above.
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Dieuwertje
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# Posted: 27 Oct 07 13:55
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Hi Corneel, I have looked carefully at all the pict and I prefer the one with the bridge, the morning atmosphere is still feeling, the brigde with the reflection in the water,the sun coming over the grass, that all makes it a very nice pict to look at for more than one time.
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Nathan Servi
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# Posted: 27 Oct 07 15:24
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Dear Corneel,
I have also tried to do as you did not long ago. I woke up at 4 in the morning, (it was july i think so early dawn) and drove to stonehenge to take pictures of the megalithes.
As soon as I started i realised that the shooting conditions were very difficult; if shooting with the sun rising behind me, the darkness and mist wouldn't allow a decent shot, and if shooting against the sun, then there were many other problems.
I took about 200 pictures in an hour or so, and when i got home i realised that most of the pics were either too dark or too contrasted. I then tried 2 different possibilities of post processing: either ND filters on the top part of the Horizon, or HRD superimposure of different exposures. These 2 possibilities allow you to keep the colours of the sky vivid, and at the same time highlight the mist, fog, and amazing de-saturated colours of the land.
And here we come to your pictures, they are all decent, I think that the best one is the one with the bridge, and I also think that if you try to add a few filters (either reshooting with a 0.6 ND grad) o or more simply in photoshop, you can get an amazing result with a darker sky and still all the amazing detail of the bridge and water.
Generally speaking i'd suggest you re do the early morning awakening, and bring a polariser, and a couple of ND filters for the bright sky.
If you want to try HDR and multiple exposure, that will allow you (after a lot of trials cause its a difficult technique) to have a natural image with all the tones of the image. All this is much easier if you shoot in RAW and then save jpeg (or tiff) files with exposures of +/- 1 more or less.
Here is some info on how to add ND filters effect in photoshop:
New Layer - Gradient Fill - reverse - Gradient editor - Color picker -
Then clic multiply in the blending mode (layers)
You should do this with various colours and different tones - and blend them together until you reach the desired effect. (if you want better explanation, email me and i'll write it all!!!! )
And a link for an HDR guide...
http://www.popphoto.com/howto/3038/how-to-create-high-dynamic-range-im ages.html
and then 2 pictures taken with these techniques;
ND grads in photoshop
and HDR
I hope i haven't bored you with information that you already knew, and i really really hope this has been helpful!
Cheers,
Nathan
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Corneel Timmermans
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# Posted: 29 Oct 07 21:43
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Thank you all for the reactions,
The´re very helpfull to understand how people look and think about the photo´s.
Specially Nathan, I´m sure going to try this HDR and suggestions in photoshop.
I´m not an expert in these things. I have made some photo´s to merge to HDR but I haven´t succeeded in a good result yet. Although I have a fairly good step by step explanation. Anyway I will check you´re link out too.
Many thank for the comments.
Corneel
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