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nonkel duvel
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# Posted: 25 Sep 06 09:55
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Sunsets and landscapes are "easy" and "safe" pictures. Not original, easy earned ratings,... Someone said this to me. We had a discussion. I don't agree but what do you think about it ? Let me know !
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Nonkel Duvel
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Dieuwertje
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# Posted: 25 Sep 06 14:07 - Edited by: Dieuwertje
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Hi Nonkel, I agree with you that it isn't easy to make GOOD sunset or landscape photo's.
There are a lot of things to think at, when you will make a good one, so as light , colours and composition. And every landcsape or sunset is a new one, because it is always a different, place, light or season.
That's why a good one get a high rating, in my opinion.
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fred snijders
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# Posted: 25 Sep 06 14:56 - Edited by: fred snijders
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IMO the difficulties of making appealing pictures of landscapes and sunsets are often underestimated. One of the reasons might be that most people like them and think that it is easy tp point the camera and press the button. There is a lot to consider in landscape photography like composition, camera standpoint, light, etc. The photographer also has to decide whether he/she wants a "still" or a dramatic px. And there is an enormous difference in mountain landscape, polders, river landscapes etc. And in sunsets it's a great problem to get the colour balance correct and to photography more than a red ball at the horizon. So it's more difficult than most people think.
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Timon
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# Posted: 25 Sep 06 15:43
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I agree with Dieuwertje and Fred. There are indeed a lot of landscape pictures on Woophy and there are some big differences between them. Some point and shoot pics, but also others which were thought about carefully in advance. It just depends on what you want to show with your picture. I like landscape photos best when I get the feeling I want to be there where they were taken...
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scarlet
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# Posted: 25 Sep 06 16:19
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I have pretty much stopped rating sunsets/sunrises and insect macros unless they are really spectacular or unique in some way. There are just too many. Landscapes on the other hand...Woophy has many original, interesting landscapes, and it's one of my main reasons for being here--to see what other places look like.
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vahephoto
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# Posted: 25 Sep 06 17:40
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I'd like to add my two cents' worth here, and I may be repeating what others have already said. I think that the logic goes something like the landscape is there, not moving, and therefore it's easy to point a camera at the scene, often standing exactly where a guidebook tells uou to, or at tourist scenic points. This is simply not true. Let's take Yosemite National Park in California, for example. This is one of my favorite places to photograph. Every evening, you'll have tens of photographers gathered at two specific spots, Tunnel View (for a view of the entire valley) or Sentinel Bridge (for Half Dome closeups). Every evening, the setting sun makes the rocks glow orange, and sometimes pink. Now, on very very rare occasions, you'll have what you need for a good photograph: a clearing storm (which means you stood there under the rain hoping the storm would go away before the sun set), with pink clouds, perhaps the full moon, and every other element that makes the photo a memorable one. Now, can you capture this scene that I just described with a point-and-shoot technique? No! The lighting is very tricky, and you could easily walk away with a picture of overexposed sky and underexposed rocks. A great landscape photograph needs not only the complete cooperation of nature, but a competent photographer who knows how to take advantage of that gift.
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fred snijders
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# Posted: 25 Sep 06 20:30 - Edited by: fred snijders
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Great explanation Vahephoto. I fully agree.
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tientje
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# Posted: 26 Sep 06 09:55
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It seemed easy at first to me...so many sunsets on Woophy...
I really needed to try it out !
Well, I was kind of suprised it was not that easy to make a nice and original one. Since I only have 2 good ones of the hundreds I tried and figured out that it is NOT so easy, I keep on rating the sunsets...=)
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Dieuwertje
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# Posted: 26 Sep 06 13:21
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Vahephoto, you just tell the truth.
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Patt
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# Posted: 26 Sep 06 13:22
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Hi everybody,
Very good synthesis Vahephoto.
I experimented myself the difficulty of this exercise when I came back this summer to the chinese Great Wall, hoping to find again the great light and the good perspectives I was lucky to catch years before (pic N° 99996). But the pictures I got this time are totally differents, not bad, but very flat compared to that one. There are so many parameters to succeed in making a good picture...For me landscape is not an easy or minor category.
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scarlet
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# Posted: 26 Sep 06 14:53
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@tientje: I think you should keep right on making sunsets/sunrises, and rating them if it suits you. Unfortunately for me, in _looking_ at them (and I don't specifically mean yours, of course) , unless they _are_ original in some quite distinctive way, I'm not sure that they are all that interesting to look at other than momentarily. I enjoy the brief glance, but they rarely hold my attention. And then again, once in a while you get a wow from one!
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sercas72
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# Posted: 27 Sep 06 01:34
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Hi, all kind of shots present dificculties but the some sunsets and landscapes are NOT original and for me is really boring sometimes, when i saw the sames CLOUDS, SEAS and SUNSETS.....if you see int his site you can see too many images about sunsets......
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Dieuwertje
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# Posted: 27 Sep 06 13:39
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Dear Sercas. I suggest you, to go to the fields, lay down at your back and look up to the sky and clouds for at last half an our. Than you will see that the sky is changing every second. Than go up to your feet and look around and your conclusion must be that the landscape is always changing too.
When you go there often, you will see that nature is different every day, because the lihgt, the weather or season.
So you never see the same clouds, the same sea or landscape.
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sercas72
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# Posted: 27 Sep 06 16:58
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I agree with you Dieuwertje, when we lived the experience of seeing something wonderful of the nature is really impressive, .........my critic point of view about this kind of images is because SOME sunsets and landscapes shots dont give nothing relevant or original like other photographic topics. All that for the abundant quantity of images of this type and that almost always include the same objects in his compositions, the sun, palms, sea, trees, clouds, sometimes is really nice pictures with a superb quality but in my personal opinion I prefer something more than a nice landscape.
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sercas72
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# Posted: 27 Sep 06 17:11
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This kind of landscapes like so much because add others elements, and isnt the typical lanscape pic.
But is only my personal opinion.
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Dieuwertje
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# Posted: 27 Sep 06 19:19
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Okè Sercas, I understand what you mean, well you are right that not all that kind of pics are special, and your examples show very well what you will say.
The last one is indeed very good and tell us a story about landlife there, what I like very much. Greetz, Dieuwertje
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Phantine
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# Posted: 2 Oct 06 17:35
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I always think that photographing in asian or african countries is less dificult. There is so much beauty there. And all the foreign stuff makes it all special. It is more difficult to make something you see daily interesting in a picture.
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Point one: Sunsets are on one hand easy to shoot. You have enough time to try different things on your camera. But since i never had the patience to wait for a beautifull sunset, it is really hard ;) Further in a sunset the landscape is mostly very important witch brings me to point two
Point two: landscapes are difficult since you have so many different angles you can shoot from. It is very hard to find the right one. In the end it might looks like an easy photo. But it might be a lucky shot or a lot of searching..
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suzan
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# Posted: 5 Oct 06 22:12
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Of course, every subject you take pic's of has it's own beauty and it's own difficulty.
Landscapes indeed seem easy, as they don't have the speciality of a rare seen african/asian beauty, scene etc. At first pic's from China amaze and surprise for instance, but lately there have been a lot of them on Whoophy, and that makes them less surprising. I think that is with all subjects. Good sunsets and reflections at first are interesting, but after some time they get boring too, like everything. It's hard to make a surprising pic, but is that necessary or are we getting spoiled?
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devish
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# Posted: 17 Oct 06 21:27
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Landskapes are my favourite subject , I think infact that taking pictures of landskapes is giving credit to earth and nature for it's magnificent colours and shapes and this is why I love photography.
Good landskapes pictures are not easy to take, mainly because you need two things:
1) a beautiful scene (wich is not easy to find).
2) a lot of imagination by the photographer.
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